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Empowering Postpartum Recovery: Rebuilding Your Core Strength With Tatianna Graham

Let's Thrive Postpartum | Tatianna Graham | Core Exercises

Welcome back to Let’s Thrive Postpartum with Kelly Siebold and Ashley Moore! Today, they are joined by the incredible Tatianna Graham, a mind-body health coach with a rich background in physiotherapy, yoga, and mindfulness. With over 12 years of experience, Tatianna is passionate about preventative health and has helped countless women overcome chronic pain and postnatal dysfunctions. In this episode, Tatianna dives deep into the intricacies of your inner core, sharing valuable insights on how to strengthen it postpartum. Get ready for transformative visualization exercises designed to help you reconnect with your body and reduce those pesky moments when you have to cross your legs to sneeze. Join Kelly and Ashley for an enlightening conversation that promises to leave you empowered and equipped with practical tips to live your best, most vibrant life.

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Empowering Postpartum Recovery: Rebuilding Your Core Strength With Tatianna Graham

Welcome back to the show. We are so excited to introduce you to Tatianna Graham. She’s going to talk to us about your inner core and your body postpartum. Tatiana Graham is a mind-body health coach and she has a background in physiotherapy, yoga, and mindfulness. Her true passion is preventative health. 

She has over twelve years of experience helping women overcome chronic pain, heal pre and postnatal dysfunctions, and truly heal within by guiding them and establishing a strong mind-body connection through breath, inner core, and more. The results tend to be lifelong and her clients get to live their lives in the best versions of themselves. Tatiana is committed to sharing her passion online through her program, The Move With Ease Method, and she is also a regular expert within the Thrive Postpartum Platform.

You guys are going to love this chat. You’re going to hear about how our cores are impacted through pregnancy and postpartum in different ways to rebuild that strength. We’re also going to do two visualizations. You can at home learn how to strengthen your own core and maybe even reduce the number of times that you have to cross your legs when you sneeze. Moms out there, you know what I’m talking about. We think you guys are going to like this one.

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Welcome Tatiana. We are so glad to have you here. Thanks for joining us.

I’m so excited to be here. 

We’re going to have a great conversation. We met through a social media platform and I have taken some of your workshops and am a huge fan. Thank you for talking to us about your core and what you can do to support your core postpartum. Before we jump in, Tatiana, could you tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got into physiotherapy, and why you have focused your career on supporting women?

Thank you so much, ladies, for having me here. I think what you guys are doing is amazing, something that all moms need and crave, and it’s so overdue. Congratulations on launching Thrive, this show. It’ll be so good for all the moms out there. I started physiotherapy because I had an injury in university, a running injury. 

I have flatter feet and I was wearing old running shoes. The doctor found, through a bone scan, fractures in my tibias or my lower leg. He said, “You should go to see physio.” I was like, “What’s a physio?” When I realized you could have a job teaching people how to move, like exercise, I thought that was super cool. That’s how I got into physiotherapy. 

Fast forward, as I grew as a practitioner, I started to do yoga in the community. I then fell in love with that practice. As my body was changing with pregnancy, I couldn’t run as much, things were heavy. I found yoga physically. As I dove deeper into yoga personally, I did my yoga teacher training and then complemented my physiotherapy practice. I started introducing that to my clients, and connecting with women because I’m a mom, a woman, transitioning through my 30s and my 40s.

With the breathwork that is involved with yoga, the mind-body connection, and the changes that happen mostly to your core, other parts of your body too, but a lot of your core, obviously when you’re pregnant, that was where I found it rewarding to help other moms reconnect and discover even that they have not just your six-pack, but an inner core, which we will talk about here. 

Pre- And Postpartum Core Changes

That’s wonderful. Could you walk people through and us too, Kelly, I know you’ve got some experience. I am so excited to learn more about this. Could you give a little context for all the pregnant moms out there who might be listening or people who just have had a baby, like what is going on in their core, that changes, that is needing to be, the way I thought about it myself, it’s kind of put back together in a sense? 

I think that the best way we can do this is to do a visualization exercise. From there, I’m going to explain what happens to those parts as you become pregnant, as you go through labor, whether it’s a C-section or you’re vaginally delivering, and then what happens after. First, let’s all close our eyes, whether you’re pregnant or not, it doesn’t matter. 

Put one hand on our heart and one hand on our belly. I always teach this with eyes closed, so you’re welcome to close down your eyes. It gives you a little bit more focus inward. As you breathe, try to breathe smoothly and calmly. As you breathe, feeling your belly rise, under your hand, followed by your rib cage expanding, and then your chest puffs. 

Then as you exhale, your chest softens, your rib cages come down and in, and then your belly softens. If you don’t feel that, don’t worry, but try to encourage that three-part breath if you can. As I describe your body, your core to you, I want you to visualize it. There’s so much power in the mind-body connection, and visualization is a great way to do that. 

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When we talk about core, most people think about the six-pack. Pretend we took that off your body. We peeled it away for a second. The two layers are called your obliques, external and internal obliques. We’re going to peel those away too. If you count, we’ve come to the fourth layer. This fourth layer is called your transversus abdominis. I like to tell my client to think of a corset. 

This corset muscle is four layers deep and it goes roughly from your lower rib cage to the top of your hip bone and wraps around your center like a corset would. It’s a very big expansive deep muscle and it inserts into your spine, the deepest part of your spine called multifidi. Multifidi are a small set of spinal postural muscles you don’t need to know exactly but know that they run from the tailbone to the back of your head. 

When the corset is inserted into multifidi, what this means is they work together synergistically. If your corset is firing properly, multifidi fire properly, and multifidi keep your spine in this nice posture. That’s the middle part of your deep core, and then you’ve got top and bottom. The top part of your core is your diaphragm. If you picture your rib cage, 3D. Under your rib cage, there’s this dome-shaped structure. That’s your diaphragm. 

On the bottom things, like if you think about your pelvis, the bones of your pelvis look like a bowl and the bottom of your bowl is not empty. You’ve got pelvic floor muscles. For short, we’re going to call it front and back. The front holds your bladder and the back holds your bowel. When we breathe in, the air is coming into your lungs. What happens when your air is filling your lungs? It’s going to push your diaphragm down. 

Imagine a dome-shaped diaphragm is going to get pushed down like a trampoline shape now. That’s the inhale. As the diaphragm is doing that, because your belly, your contents, organs have to go somewhere. They’re going to go out a little bit and down. The corset is going to expand or relax. The inhales, your corset expands, diaphragms come down, and abdominal contents, the organs also shift down a touch so the pelvic floor, the bottom of the bowl, and the pelvis, it’s also going to relax and open or dropdown. It’s like someone sat in a hammock. That’s the inhale. 

As you exhale, the opposite happens. Maybe not a ton, but like 5% because as you exhale, the air is exiting your lungs. Your diaphragm is going to dome back up. Your rib cages have space to come down and in. Corset is going to sink your waist a little bit and then your pelvic floor muscles have less pressure on them because you’re exhaling. It might feel like a little bit of a lift. Now I talked through that super fast. Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 sessions to connect with those parts. Let me know, how did that go?

I love the description and the visualization. I can perfectly imagine how all those shapes are moving and shifting and bringing awareness to it. You being able to walk through gives me a good idea of what’s going on in there.

Me too. I feel like it’s the opposite. In my mind, I would have said my pelvic floor was going to squeeze up when I was breathing in, and the opposite. That’s not logical when you explain it. It makes perfect sense how it goes up and down together. I intuitively would have thought it was the opposite. The awareness is great to have. 

Kelly, I love that you brought that up because you’re not alone. A lot of women I see, whether it’s virtually or in person. I don’t know why and where it comes from, but there’s this feeling that when you breathe in, it’s pulling in. I don’t know if it comes from when we were kids or teenagers and you’re trying on skinny jeans and you’re like, “Suck it in,” and then you suck it in, but it doesn’t make sense because when you suck in air, your belly goes out, but we’ve been fighting ourselves maybe. 

I remember in one of my first yoga classes years and years ago when they were like, “When you breathe in, your belly needs to expand.” I was like, “No, it doesn’t. It needs to suck in.”

We call that in the clinic, paradoxical breathing, which is fighting yourself. You’re trying to bring in air. You’re trying to bring this nourishing air into your body, but you’re restricting the flow. 

When you suck in your stomach, there’s not as much space for it to go.

We can have another episode on that. That would be rib cage stiffness, mid-back pain, and all this stuff. We won’t talk about that today but know that when you inhale, if you break it down logically, I have to expand my belly because air is filling my lungs and then my pelvic floor should be opening and relaxing. 

How Pregnancy Impacts The Lungs, Diaphragm, And Pelvic Floor

As for those changes we talked about, the increases and decreases of your pelvic floor, I can only imagine when you are pregnant, and you are growing a child, there’s less room in there. As everything shifts, we’ve all been pregnant and things are happening inside. How does that impact it with all the less space that is happening to your pelvic floor, your lungs, and your diaphragm? Everything gets smushed. 

It’s a beautiful amazing thing when you’re growing that being in you, and along with that comes the squishiness, depending on the position of the baby, how big the baby is, and your body frame. There are a lot of factors there, but know that as you grow, you can still safely do things like breathwork. Maybe at a certain point, you shouldn’t do crunches or planks. I don’t know if we have time to get into that today, but I could break that down. 

You could do this breathwork to help keep things strong inside but also have awareness on how to relax and let go because when you’re giving birth or when you’re birthing your child, you don’t want to fight yourself. When you’re having a contraction and when it’s time to push, you don’t want to fight yourself. You hold it. You want your pelvic floor to open. Another image I give clients is when you’re relaxed, when you’re breathing and inhaling, picture your vagina as a flower, and you open the flower petals. When you inhale, you’re opening up the flower petals. Most people are like, “No, it’s a bud. I cannot open it.”

Do you work with women who are pregnant and postpartum?

Yeah. I work with all ages. I’ve even taught this to a teenager who was a high-level hockey player, a lot of hip stuff. I was like, “I’m going to do hip stuff too, but I want you to know about this.” It helped her back pain because she was always tight. 

Prepping For Birthing

I can see too during birth. We’ve all given birth and unless you have a lot of practice in knowing how to intentionally relax parts of your body, it’s painful and uncomfortable. When we’re in pain, everything wants to clench up, which is not conducive to speeding up the birthing process.

I like that you brought up pain because as human beings, we don’t like pain. Nobody likes pain, but when you train yourself to get comfortable and sit with it, it’s not as bad as what your brain is perceiving or interpreting. That’s my practice. I can use myself as an example. When I gave birth to my first child, I was a new physiotherapist. I hadn’t done all my inner core training yet. I was fighting myself. I went from 4 centimeters to 5 in seven hours. It was terrible because I was holding. Every contraction I was holding. I wasn’t that connected and aware of me, and then with my second and third, they came out like bullets. 

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Sounds so much better than seven hours.

It’s painful. There’s no doubt about that, but there is a way to breathe through it. If you practice all those months before labor, you’re setting yourself up for as smooth as possible. Things can go wrong. You might need a C-section. That’s okay too. You can still train your inner core if it gets cut. If you can prep yourself as much as you can, why wouldn’t you? 

Relaxing Your Inner Core

Could you walk us through how you relax your inner core? We’ve talked about it. We’ve felt it breathing in and out. Do you think, relax? What do you do?

It’s hard to just think relax. The first thing, and we did it, but let’s do it again. It’s slowing down your breath and giving yourself time to feel your body. Most people, I ask them to take an hour, every hour of their day to check in with their breath. Whether that’s lying down, sitting, standing, one hand on the heart, one hand on the belly, or not, it’s an opportunity to feel like, “Am I even breathing fully?” 

Meaning when you inhale, there’s a rise in the belly a little bit, and then your rib cage expands. Your chest puffs a little. As you exhale, the chest softens down a little bit. The rib cage accordions in. They soften in and then your belly softens in. Once you feel your three-part breath, so let’s pretend everyone has their three-part breath, we’re going to focus on the inhale. Don’t worry about your exhale, whatever happens, happens, but on your inhale, you’re going to bloom that vagina. When you inhale, your flower petals are opening. 

If you’re sitting, pretend your vagina flower is on your chair. You’re opening those petals onto the chair. I also like to talk about the back. Don’t forget the back. If you had a coffee bean and it’s in your bum, I know it sounds weird, but bear with me for a second. If you had a coffee bean and it’s way up in your bum, when you inhale, you’re so relaxed, it might roll out. You’re not pushing it out though. It’s not a forceful push. It’s like a bloop. That might fall out. 

Every inhale, we’re visualizing this relaxed pelvic floor. The corset is expanding on your inhale. Your ribcage is expanding on your inhale. When you exhale, everything might draw in a bit, but it shouldn’t be sucking all the way back in. If it does, that’s okay. That’s an indication that maybe you tend to be more tight, which I think we’re going to touch on next. 

Relaxation Work After Birthing

That was great. That was perfect for my next question. You’re talking to moms who’ve had babies and a lot of women have the issue that after you have a child, you tend to use the restroom on yourself. A little bit of a leak comes out whether you’re sneezing. Different things happen. You lost that ability to control it like you want. When you say relax, that is a little terrifying sometimes because if you’re already having issues, what’s going to happen if you relax? A lot of moms, myself included, you keep that squeezed a lot because you’re trying to compensate. How does this relaxing work if you’re suffering from that issue after having a child? 

Great question. I was a victim of it too, and I hear it a lot. I cannot jump. I cannot go on the trampoline with my kids. If my bladder is full and I sneeze, I’m done. I got to go change my underwear. Why are we talking so much about relaxing? It’s because honestly, in my experience, I know other practitioners that have the same. Most postpartum moms are so terrified, as you said, Kelly, that they’re squeezing all the time. I’m going to give you an example. 

If I have my arm always curled up, picture the bicep curl and you’re squeezing that elbow all day long to curl your bicep, at the end of the day, it’s going to be hard to open your elbow. It’s going to be sticky, stiff, and sore to open your elbow straight. That bicep is going to be too tight. As a physio or a health coach or whatever, I’m not going to give that person bicep curls. They cannot open their elbow to pick up the weight. 

The same goes for this group of muscles. If your inner core, if your pelvic floor is already tight and your bladder fills up and your bladder is pushing on your pelvic floor muscles, because it’s filling up, but you have no more room to squeeze. The range of motion is not there. I don’t know the exact percentage, but let’s say 90% of people have incontinence because they’re too tight.

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I like the range of motion idea. You have to practice the release and contract to build the muscle to make it stronger. Your biceps not going to get stronger by just holding it. 

It’s so non-functional. 

This concept blew my mind. I attended one of your free workshops a few weeks ago and I messaged you afterward about it because in my head it was tight and tight, having to sit there and visualize relaxing and I did it. I want to say I maybe did it for five minutes a couple of times a day and I’m still trying to remember, I already feel better and more supported from doing it. It went against everything that I thought I should do. Also, I was very afraid that I was going to use the bathroom on myself trying to do it the first couple of times. It feels so unnatural. It’s mind-blowing how simple something like that could be. It’s not a simple thing to do but to know that you have to relax to strengthen.

Isn’t that so cool? I love hearing that and I hear this a lot. Every time it puts this big smile on my face because it’s not about doing a hundred crunches or all these planks. I had this one client who was so upset because someone at the grocery store, a mailman, or something was like, “Are you pregnant again?” She’s like, “No.” She looked pregnant because she had no idea about her core set muscle and her inner core stuff. By giving her the breathwork, she had a flat tummy in two weeks. 

I’ve been incorporating more breath work and I’ve been working with a wonderful Pilates instructor who’s been doing lots of breathing and very gentle intentional movements and that kind of thing, and so much of what my realization has been is I was mostly not aware of what my body was doing 95% of the day. I have the baby on my hip, and then I wonder why that side of my body is so out of whack. People are looking and they’re like, “That’s imbalanced. Do you carry your child on that side? Do you carry the diaper bag and the car seat and all this stuff on that side?” I was like, “Uh-huh.” Just bringing awareness to what your body is doing all day, and then how you bring more attention to all these parts that can have such an impact. It’s learning how to pay attention.

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I think it’s great that you work with someone. A lot of moms feel like we have to figure it all out ourselves and do it all. You’re so busy taking care of your family, your children, and your maybe elderly parents. I don’t know, there are so many hats moms wear. It’s nice to have someone hold your hand and guide you and be there to be accountable for and support you, like the mentorship. 

I hope that this isn’t true anymore but like I feel like there’s this guilt of if I don’t keep my house clean or I don’t have my body back to where it was. You’re doing so much. It’s okay to lean on others for support including reconnecting to your body. That’s not an easy thing to do. Even though it’s like, I always carry my kid on my left hand, left hip because I’m freeing up my right hand. You did that because you’re trying to make dinner. For someone to point that out and help you give you stretches and exercises to rebalance that, that’s awesome. 

Thank you for doing this. If there’s a mom who maybe only has 30 minutes of free time while she’s trying to cook dinner with the child on her hip, getting to hear someone remind her these are breath awareness things that you can do and how to start thinking through relaxation and awareness of your muscles is a great thing for people to realize and to hear and to get that first step.

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It’s Never Too Late To Strengthen Your Core

Let me ask this. All of us have had kids fairly recently. None of our children are that old. They’re all not teenagers yet. What about if it’s a mom who has kids 10 years ago, 12 years ago, 20 years ago? Does inner core support and strengthening still help them? Is there a point where that was too late? 

That’s never a thing. It’s never too late. I have so many clients in their 50s and 60s and they want to live independent lives. Maybe they came in for like, “My balance is poor and I want to make sure I can keep up with my farm.” They’re like, “I cannot live with this back pain for my retirement. I want to have fun in my life.” We did go deeper and it’s her inner core stuff. They’re like, “I always thought since having babies, I’m always going to do this. Pee my pants or whatever.”

They see me and they do the work, their homework. They’re so amazed like, “Why didn’t I do this postpartum earlier?” I love we’re having this conversation, bringing awareness. I think it was so taboo 10 or 20 years ago maybe. There’s so much more awareness for women’s health. I hope that we can keep spreading that because there’s no reason that as a mom, you need to suffer through that. There are things you can do. As Kelly said, as simple as paying a little bit of attention to your breath, mind, and body connecting to muscles that maybe you didn’t know you had. 

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Tatiana, is there anything else that we can visualize that a mom could do? We’ve got the three-part breathwork. We talked about spinning a couple of minutes once an hour, feeling your breath in and out from the parts of the muscles, and then adding in your pelvic floor and working on that. Is there anything for that awareness or an exercise that you would recommend that a mom also try? 

The XYZ Spine

There’s something I call X, Y, Z spine, which is a movement for your spine in 3D. Most of us, even if we’re a mom, we do a lot forward, breastfeeding, carrying, computer work, phone. Everything is in this plane. I’m going to do it with you guys. We’re going to stand up and I’m going to show you guys and you can do it with me if you want, Kelly and Ashley. If we stand nice and tall, I’ll show you my profile view. 

We’re going to do X-spine first. We’re going to roll chin to chest, roll our body forward, nice and gentle. You can bend your knees if you feel a little tight in the legs and then you’re going to slowly rag down left. Maybe put your hands on your bum and push your hips forward for a back bend. We’re going to do that one more time. This is the X-axis of our spine. Make sure you’re breathing. That was X. Now we’re going to do Y. Right ear to shoulder, right shoulder to right hip. 

You’re side-bending. If it feels good, you can even lift your arm and open up through the rib cage. We spend so much time using our arms, hunching forward, breastfeeding, and carrying. This can get tight up here. This is your Y. We’re side-bending. We’re doing a side bend, so a direct side bend. The last movement in your spine craves is Z or I like to call it also rotation. 

It’s quite simple but the amount of time we spend in this plane of axis is way more than those other ones. Mindfully doing that even three times a day is going to make your back so much happier because I know a lot of moms get stiff back, the breastfeeding pillow, sitting in a rocking chair, maybe you have a baby that you’re bouncing because they won’t move. 

It’s like your spine is 24 bones and it’s more than 50. It’s craving movement. It wants fluid to flow. The synovial fluid, the joint fluid needs to flow. The muscles around the spine, your blood is craving gliding and movement. When we don’t do it, we get stiff and sore. When we get stiff and sore, it cascades into, “I’m afraid to move because I’m stiff and sore, but then that perpetuates. 

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Tatiana, some of this too can almost be preventative as we age. If we’re starting to move our bodies this way. A lot of moms are like, “There’s nothing wrong. I cannot point to a problem, so I don’t need to seek out X, Y, and Z. I cannot say that there’s this one thing wrong. I guess everything is fine,” but there are so many practices and things that are out there that are supportive and preventative. 

Don’t Wait Until You’re In Pain

I feel like you’re in my head. There’s a quote I saw, which resonates with my passion. It was prevention is superior to any cure. It’s true. I’ve been telling people this since early in my physio practice. Don’t wait until you’re in pain. If you feel the little tweak or something’s off, you don’t need to know exactly. Just come. As a physiotherapist, we also want to help people prevent injury. 

Now that I’m in this mind, body, health coach space. That’s what I want to put out there. It’s what I post about on social media and educate people through my emails. Why would we wait till we’re old, stiff, and sore? Don’t do that. We can do stuff now. It doesn’t have to be hours at the gym. It doesn’t have to go to five yoga classes a week and I do this and I do that. It can be small, bite-sized, little pieces, but daily and consistent practice is important.

I can even feel my own back from doing the X, Y, and Z. I sit a lot and hold a child and move the way we were built to move. I can feel that I don’t do that very often. 

We are built to move. 

Tatiana, this has been wonderful. I hope moms get a couple of different things that they can visualize and work on for their bodies. If anybody is interested, how do they get in touch with you or learn more about your practice? 

They can reach out anytime. I’m on Instagram, Tatiana Graham Inc. I’m on LinkedIn, Tatiana Graham. I’m in the Thrive community, so you can find me there. I love hanging out with these gals. If you want to download my free guide, we’ll attach a link somewhere. I’m happy to chat with anyone who’s interested in preventative health, or if you have inner core questions, I love this stuff. Please reach out. 

We are going to include the X, Y, Z spine, stuff that you talked about, your free download, all your social media links, also ways to find Tatiana as a member within the Thrive Platform community. Join us there as well to learn more from her. We thank you guys very much for being here. Ashley, what else? 

I think that’s it. I love this. I learned so many things that as Kelly said, it should be intuitive. Maybe now that I do it, it feels intuitive, but for whatever reason, my brain was like, “No, it needs to be the opposite.” I think the more people, in general, can be in touch with their bodies and be aware and be more intentional about what they do every day, it’s nothing but positive impacts. Thank you for all that you do. It’s wonderful. 

Thank you so much for having me. It’s been lovely. I love this. This is great. 

Thank you, guys. We will see you next week. Bye. 

Kelly, I learned so much from Tatiana. The information that she is sharing and the way that she’s helping all of her patients are amazing. One of the biggest takeaways for me is reminding all the moms out there, myself included, that nothing necessarily has to be wrong to seek out services from physiotherapists or other practitioners like Tatiana. When you’re coming into your postpartum body and things are getting back into place, so many of these movements and exercises can be preventative and help rebuild your strength. As she said, you don’t have to do it alone. 

I completely agree. I do think looking back to our parent’s generation, I do feel like that was a thing where people said, “I now have incontinence when I sneeze.” This is what happens to you after childbirth. It doesn’t have to be. Going through some of the mind-body exercises that she did, I can feel a difference. Just a little bit has helped me. I am very impressed. I hope that this is helpful to all of you guys. If you’re interested, you want to check out more of her workshops, feel free to go to her website or you can also check her out as an expert within the Thrive platform. Thank you for joining this week. We hope you got some great information and we will see you back here next week. Thanks.

 

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Let's Thrive Postpartum | Tatianna Graham | Core Exercises Tatianna Graham is a MindBody Health Coach with a background in physiotherapy, yoga and mindfulness. Her true passion is Preventative Health. She has over 12+ years of experience helping women overcome chronic pain, heal pre/post-natal dysfunctions, and truly heal from within by guiding them in establishing a strong Mind Body Connection through breath, inner core and more. Their results are life-long and her clients get to live their lives in the best versions of themselves. Tatianna is committed to sharing her passion online through her program, The Move With Ease Method.

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